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Exactly, I had a key made for a talon years ago and had to show proof of ownership. If we could just march in and have a key made with only the VIN do you know how many cars would be stolen and how many lawsuits dealerships would have on their hands?

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Stealing cars by using Vehicle Identification Numbers (VINs) to obtain duplicate keys from auto dealerships certainly has worked for some car thieves. A July 2009 news item from Chicago reported that a ring of thieves using purloined VINs had stolen hundreds of cars over an 18-month period, and a December 2002 article in theAtlanta Journal and Constitution described the break-up of a multi-state car theft ring which employed just such a scheme:A man recently arrested by Lilburn police may be part of a car theft ring that operates in the Southeast and involves at least $580,000 worth of stolen cars, authorities said. Kevin Lee Davis, 32, was arrested Dec. 4 by Lilburn police and charged with theft by receiving stolen property and illegally falsifying the vehicle identification number on a car, said Lilburn Police Chief Ron Houck. Since the arrest, Davis has admitted to working with a group that has been stealing cars in at least four states, Houck said. [Huntsville, Ala., police officer Jeffrey] Weaber said Davis had a few car-stealing schemes that he had never seen before. "He has to be in the top five of the smartest criminals I've encountered," said Weaber. "I've never seen a scheme like that." In one scheme, Davis was able to create authentic looking titles for cars he would steal, said Weaber. According to police, Davis would go to used car lots and copy down the vehicle identification number of cars he wanted to steal. He would put the stolen VIN numbers on the titles he created and then take them to the dealership, Weaber said. "He would go to the dealer and tell them that he lost the key to his car," said Weaber. "Because he had proof of ownership they would make the key for him and he would just drive the car off the lot."While this article validates that the VIN scheme has been successfully used, it also demonstrates why the scheme doesn't necessarily pose a threat to the average car owner. Using VINs to steal cars isn't nearly as easy as the warning quoted above makes it sound: the thieves have to case the cars they want to steal, record VINs, make trips to auto dealerships, present some form of registration or proof of title, wait for the dealers to contact the manufacturers and make up duplicate keys, then return to wherever they found the cars in the first place and use the duplicate keys to steal them.

You guys remind me of the guy who owned life lock who gave out his social number.
and then got identity jacked.
Whether you think its possible or not there are recorded instances of this happening. (They forge their reg)

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1989 Mirage Turbo (Daily).
'89 DODGE COLT GT TURBO.
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1989 PLYMOTH COLT GT 12v - SOLD
1994 DIAMANTE - SOLD

Don't worry too much, because if you are selling a car, it's likely leaving a driveway sometime soon.

I see your point 100%.

We don't post VINs to our Registry just for this reason.

I'm happy some people do via EBay and the other sales sites because I can catalogue things very readily.

Also, VINs make it easier to confirm a real vehicle for sale or to research.

So, anybody got some more Turbo VINs to add to the Registry?

Tim, has this been your plan all along? Get all the VIN's and then go have keys made and steal all the turbo cars?


All joking aside, if I had a car worth stealing I guess I'd pay more attention to things like this. However I think the majority of the members (except for lilevo) on here are safe. And I mean that in the nicest way possible.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Good thing we dont have hondas. Those are not worth stealing, but get stolen a lot.

Hyundai Excel with 14k miles. Someone get this.

Http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4764608704.html

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-1988 Dodge Colt Hatchback - G15b w/ KM200
-1998 Neon R/T Coupe Hahn Stage II
-2014 Subaru BRZ Limited

I just dont want to see any of my csm brothers get got.
Anything can be forged.thinking somthing isn't possible dosn't make it impossible.
Value of an a object has no relevance in a thiefs mind ,most of them are cleptomaniacs
And just steal for a thrill.

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1989 Mirage Turbo (Daily).
'89 DODGE COLT GT TURBO.
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1989 PLYMOTH COLT GT 12v - SOLD
1994 DIAMANTE - SOLD

Here's an old advert from BC, Canada.
rustybuttrusty.com
Click Me

Another old for sale advert:
Click Me

They shouldn't say Cyborg unless it's kitted properly.

http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/4766694762.html

Apparently needs to be sorted...

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Love my '89 Colt Turbo, but I run the Shifter Kart for a competition thrill!

He's a member on here

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

http://www.facebook.com/captaintonus

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/4814401921.html

Anyone know this car?

^^ Pretty good deal, but don't know him

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

http://www.facebook.com/captaintonus

^^^ Really nice, but he will be waiting forever for that money. there is no collector market for 1983 4-door colts, low miles or not. Looking at the rear, it was an RV towed car (note the lights bolted to the bumper, hello holes and future rust). So you can guarantee the rear wheels/bearings have seen more that 24k miles. I hope he can sell it, but I suspect it will be closer to 2k than 5k

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1991 GVR4 1025/2000 (PTE 1200's, 16g, DSMLink v3, gm-maf, eagle/ross, .020 over, 272's, EVO VIII Wheels)
1992 GVR4 866/1000 (getting everything from above)

LOL, those 2 reverse speeds are a really strong selling point

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

http://www.facebook.com/captaintonus