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 Post subject: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:27 am 
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Hello all, my name is Justin, and I am from Atlanta, GA, I work as the head tech at a little performance shop called bATLground Motorsports. Earlier this week, I picked up a 1992 Dodge Colt. The car came with the stock 4g15, just not installed, the previous owner removed it to do a 4g63 swap.

My plans are to reinstall the 4g15, and possibly adding a "budget" turbo kit. By "budget" turbo kit, I mean a lot of old parts that I have laying around. My only problem with that is the old turbo I have is an evo8 16g, and I think it might be too big for the 1.5L. What are your guys thoughts? If I were to use the evo turbo, I have a weaker (7psi) wastegate I would make work.

Aside from that, I got some 2g wheels, as well as the 1g hubs. The 5 lug is going to happen before the car drives. Also, I am going to lower the car before it moves.

It has some exterior damage, mainly the driver rear wheel arch. Other than that, nothing major. I am looking for a few things: tailights, passenger mirror, and driver rear wheel arch.

The interior looks like crap. I need a dash pad, as well as some other little things. The front seats will be replaced with Bride replica's (we sell a bunch on ebay, and the quality is great for a replica), and the doors panels, and some other parts will get freshened up.

After my other project gets finished, awd built 6bolt is the plan for the colt.

I will post a link to my toy, the colt is the DD. The toy is a 2001 Lexus IS300 that is being turned into a race car. And for power, 4g63 hehe. http://my.is/forums/f219/build-2-3-turb ... -a-413032/

A teaser of the lex
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A pic of the shop
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And now pics of the colt

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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:10 am 
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very nice build.. on the colt..make sure u get the rims and tires you want to run put on the car before you lower it. it will make life alot easier lol


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:25 pm 
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I hope you're turboing the 4g15 just to be different because it won't even be as fast as a n/a 4g63 swap. Looking at a boost from 92hp stock to something like 120-130 if you're lucky and don't shatter a piston. Either way, welcome to 61t! You'll find pretty much everything there is to know about the 3rd gen csm here.

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1991 Eagle Summit ES Hatchback - 4g15 12v 5spd
1991 Dodge Colt -4g15 12v 4spd
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1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass - 468BBO TH350
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1990 Dodge Colt-4G63T 5spd


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:39 pm 
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Slowdsm- thanks for the tip, fortunatly I am picking up tires for the 16's today. I will do the 5 lug before I lower it.

Mechacode- I am thinking about turboing the 4g15 because I have all the parts at the shop minus turbo flanges, and oil lines. If the engine blows, I will just 4g63 swap it at that time. If it lasts, I will just rock the 150whp ;)


Thank you guys for the warm welcome


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:54 pm 
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150 is a pipe dream and there are many reasons why noone bothers to turbo a 4g15 but good luck, it's always interesting to see new projects.

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1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass - 468BBO TH350
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1990 Dodge Colt-4G63T 5spd


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:16 am 
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I have a super clean shell that I am parting. My brother has a plasma cutter so I can cut off whatever you need from the rear quarter panel.

Oh yeah, welcome to the site!

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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:59 am 
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Let me know how much for that rear quarter shipped to 30080, also do you have a dash pad still?


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:56 am 
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Do you want the entire quarter, just a section or what? Say $50 + whatever actual shipping costs. I no longer have the dash pad. Mint ones are next to impossible to find.

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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:19 pm 
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I would judt want that damaged section if I get it. First I want to check to local junk yards for a csm. As far as the dash, I would even take a cracked one. The previous owner said the dash was cracked, so he started removing it. It looks like he removed the pad with a shovel. Lol


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:23 pm 
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I removed the interior to fully clean the car. The carpet is moist, and smells. After some deep cleaning, it should not smell :) Also, I am just going to install the sparco I have for the lex, since my driver's seat expires at the end of this year. Sorry for the sideways pic.

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Now to the turbo stuff. I called a friend looking for a dash, to find out he has no dash, but a 4g61t for a good price. At this point I decided against replacing 4g15 headgaskets often, and gave up on that idea. If I pick up his engine, I will have to run my evo 8 turbo since his does not have a turbo. My question is not about the turbo setup, but will the stock 4 speed work behind the 4g61? I imagine that they are weak, but how weak? Just debating if I should consider this since the engine is currently removed from the car. If I have to source a 1g fwd gearbox immediatly, I will hold off on the swap for a little while. But if I can baby it with the 4 speed, then I will most likely do the turbo swap now ;)


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:19 am 
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If you were extremely lucky and found a clutch that could hold the power, the 4g15 trans won't hold up for very long as it was designed to work with about 90hp running through it. Also, by being a 4spd, it's most likely a cable clutch so that means you'll need to swap over to a hydraulic setup if you want to run a dsm trans.

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Had a:
1991 Eagle Summit ES Hatchback - 4g15 12v 5spd
1991 Dodge Colt -4g15 12v 4spd
Have a:
1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass - 468BBO TH350
Round 3:
1990 Dodge Colt-4G63T 5spd


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:34 am 
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Decided to rock the stock 4g15. So thoughts of turbo are out the window for a little bit. Going to start collecting everything for a 4g61 or 4g63 swap on the side, and once everything is collected the swap will begin. The car is not running yet, need a new ecu, lol. So I started on the 5 lug swap. I started with 1g dsm hubs, then the tie rod mount was flipped and welded back together. Here is a pic of the jig I made to keep the alignment correct when starting to weld.

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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:31 am 
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I finished welding the hubs. I then realized that the brake calipers that the previous owner gave me were for the colt, not the eclipse rotors that he gave me. I came up with a clever solution. BBK. I had some wilwoods that I bought for the Lexus, then realized they were a bit small for the car. Instead of selling them, I am just putting them on the colt. I will be using my IS300 rotors since they are larger than the eclipse ones, as well as making brackets for the calipers.

Another question: do people upgrade the master cyl. when upgrading the front brakes? I know it is needed for the rears, but how about the fronts?

Anyways, here are the pics.

Finished hub

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Old hub/rotor vs. eclipse hub/IS300 rotor

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Painting the wilwoods sparkle orange 8)

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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:38 am 
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This thing is very close to me actually driving it for the first time. A little more than a week later than the largest car meet in atlanta (import alliance). Oh well, now on to the progress pics.

Made the brake caliper brackets
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And the hub with new brakes
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And the wheel installed
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I think I need tires with a smaller sidewall, these are super tall.

I will take more pics once I give her a bath.


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 Post subject: Re: new colt owner in GA
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:34 am 
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Not sure what you're looking to spend on tires but I have a brand new set of kumhos that I bought for my 16" 3000GT wheels. I'll take $200 + shipping, think I paid around $300 for them. Pics are in my build thread towards the end. Might be up for some trades too.

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