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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:51 am 
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Looking at an easy way of testing the Baro circuit in a MAF sensor.

Is there a simple DVOM test that can be performed to get a result that will prove if the MAF sensor is in spec?

We have a member here that has a MAF throwing a CEL for the Baro circuit, wiring is apparently testing good back to the ECU pins.

Anyone encountered and diagnosed the failure definitely without just swapping a different sensor in place?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:10 am 
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This may not be completely relevant, but I always used a pocket logger to watch the Baro info. I can recall at least once, if not twice that the Baro numbers went crazy, as well as the intake temps right before my ECU capped out.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:49 am 
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Very true.

The guy we're helping is in Malta, and has to have the car serviced by a tech there.

This is the attempt to glean some info without a logger. 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:02 am 
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On my car I had this problem and it turned out to be a bad connection in the MAF plug, bent and/or corroded.
Wiring tested good back to the ECU pins and another MAF gave the same results.
This has also happened to me while trying to chase down a fan problem (bent and/or corroded relay connection) and
with the coil pack transistor(or whatever it's called).


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:09 am 
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Hope this help, i have skipped the N/T and DRBII information ;)
Let me know if you want more scan pics ...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:29 am 
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Excellent information, thanks!

If I have time tonight, I'll build a test rig and get some real world numbers.

... they'll be from 9200 feet in altitude, but I should be able to see if there's any life in the unit.

Thanks again!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:53 am 
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I think i have maybe more checking information at my garage.
Have you a Turbo car ? Procedure are different than N/A model ...
Check engine code or not ?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:13 am 
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Every time I've ever had that error its been the ECU. Not saying they don't go bad but I'd bet its the ECU.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:26 am 
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ColtiXim, thanks for the reply!

FWIW, This is not for my car, it's for the nemisis swap that's in Malta.

(Tim came over to the Galantvr4.org board to ask for assistance / input on the interchange and I followed the conundrum over to this board.)

As near as I can tell, the airflow meter will need to interface with an early jdm vr4 wiring harness / ecu.


I am a little curious about the "doppleganger" green/yellow wires used in the maf plug.

I can see how the ecu would be confused by the wrong signal input if those wires were swapped during harness repairs/ work.

... sure would like to kick the beancounter that thought it would be okay to use green/yellow wire throughout the engine harness squarely in the sack! :axe:

89Mirageman, my experience has been that the baro side doesn't fail often, but when it does, it fails open and the ecu will use a "default" (which I *believe to be sea level readings.) In the case of a car at sea level, it's not such a big problem, but up here at 9200ft in Colorado, it'll result in a total pooch and some toasty egt's, as the timing will be not be advanced and the fuel trimmed back to compensate for the "thinner" air.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:39 pm 
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Holy Cow guys!

This is exactly the type of information we were needing.

I took some manuals to work but never got them open, they are the Pair of manuals I was looking at putting up for sale, or they might already be listed.

I see stuff like this at work, but this is all vintage era stuff. Haha.


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