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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:31 pm 
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hi guys...
im in the process of installing a new front mount intercooler. and was just wondering what the outlet size of the td04 is on a 4g61t... and the intake size... i thought it was 2.25 but after looking online im coming up with different measurements all over....

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:57 pm 
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hey i just measured it and it seems to be 1.75 inches but i thought it would be 2.25 (measured with hose on ... idiot)

sooo my intercooler has 2.5 inch inlets... what i was thinking of doing it simply running 2 inch piping but at the outlet of turbo and intake ill have a 1.75 - 2 inch reducers and at the intercooler 2 - 2.5 inch reducers....
would that be to much of size changing or should that be fine?
is there a mod i can do to increase my intake and outlet sizes?

for example i was thinking of getting some pipe expanders and expanding the outlet of the turbo to 2 inches but iam unsure if i could do that with the intake to?

thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:59 pm 
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the stock J pipe coming off the turbo is 1 3/4" inside diameter (I have the pipe and turbo in front of me now) and the intake part going into the turbo from the air filter is 2"




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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:03 pm 
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my setup has the 2 1/2" IC piping also... I have a 2' to 2 1/2 coupler at the J pipe.. and all my ic pipe is 2 1/2.. it is loose fitting but I used 2 clamps and it seems to clamp down good and hold 16 psi.... but im sure you can buy a 1 3/4 to 2 1/2 coupler..




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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:09 pm 
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hey thanks for that.... so do you think stepping from that to a 2 inch piping then to a 2.5 inch intercooler is ok or is that a bit to big?

NEVERMIND!
you answered at the same time :)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:14 pm 
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by the way what about the pipe expander idea?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:19 pm 
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I personally wouldnt do it.. to many connections = more places to leak.
I would try to find a coupler either 2 to 2 1/2... or a 1 3/4 to 2 1/2..

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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:33 pm 
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do you mean run 2.5 piping all the way through to the intercooler?
so you think get 2 - 2.5 couplers as for the outlet on the turbo and the intake manifold... i cant find any 1.75 - 2.5 reducers... thats why i thought of expanding the pipe that little bit if it goes....

I am trying to avoid to much lag by pipe sizing if i can


one option i was thinking is...
get silicone reducers from 1.75 to 2.125 (all i can find)
stretch the 2.125 over the 2.25 (i think itll stretch)
run 2.25 piping to the intercooler go from 2.25 to a 2.5 then out of the intercooler go 2.5 to 2.25 then run back to the intake 2.25 all the way and use a reducer again 1.75 to 2.125 and stretch it over....

i was hoping that minimizes lag?


other thing i could do is expand the outlet of the turbo to maybe a 2 inch (i still dont know if i could do that never expanded a pipe but i found these on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 1005098541 and thought that might work)

then go from 2 to a 2.25 run 2.25 pipe all the way through and just get reducers from 2.25 to 2.5 on the intercooler?


or does the pipe size from 2 to 2.5 not really produce much more laG?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:41 pm 
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yeah come off the turbo with a 2 to 2 1/2" coupler..then run 2 1/2" pipe to the IC and up to the throttle body...the 2" will clamp down onto the J pipe good just use 2 hose clamps on it..

this is the J pipe.. as u can see there are 2 bumps.. put both clamps in between them and it will seal up good..

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii33 ... AG0438.jpg

as for the intake.. u can make it however u like.. im going from 2" up to a 3 1/2" filter.. this is not as crucial as the IC piping so you can make it however large you want to.. alot of people use a 4" filter


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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:43 pm 
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sorry when i say intake i mean not the turbo intake but the actual intake on the motor so after the intercooler and bov


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:47 pm 
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this part correct?..

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u101 ... wImag3.jpg


if so most people upgrade to a 2g dsm one which is 2 1/2..

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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:51 pm 
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thats the one .......
2g dsm u say?
whats that part called? and where do i find one in australia ?
if i call a wrecker what car is that out of?

would a bigger throttle body be an idea with that or not worth it yet?'
such as this 1

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Up ... 0fd&_uhb=1


thanks :)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:47 pm 
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stock throttle body is good..

part is called a throttle body elbow.. the 2g dsm is 95-99 Mitsubishi eclipse/Eagle talon.. with a 4g63t engine.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2g-Throttle- ... 338895a960



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On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:50 am 
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sweet thanks im on my way to get one now :)

thanks for all the help!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:38 pm 
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wreckers told me over the phone they had one ... but offcourse they had no clue what part i was talking about till i brang it in.... and they didnt have it...
so now im getting the one from the link thats you supplied above :)
3 weeks wait is a little anoying though... thats probably why this car is taking me so long because i keep having to order parts online


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