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Author:  amoney90 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  shift linkage problems
To start off, I have a 92 plymoth colt with a 4g63t with a fwd dsm transmission. I did the shift lever swap from the 1.5L trans that 89mirageman has a write up for, but the shifter is way far back. Neutral sits about where 2nd should be but centered. Without it running I can put it to what feels like, 2nd 4th and reverse but with it running it won't go into any of those gears. Is there some kind of adjustment I need to be doing to the cables themselves? Any help would be appreciated. Will post a picture of where my shifter sits as soon as the email from my phone goes through. Thanks for helping me get my car on the road!

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Author:  UnderPSI [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
Thats weird, if you use all the original 3rd gen parts it should be right.
Author:  amoney90 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
yeah, thats why I am so confused.
Author:  UnderPSI [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
Those dont look like csm cables to me. Is'nt the side to side cable suppose to be adjustable?
Author:  Natedog [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
I thought DSM ones were adjustable on that side as well, but its been a while since I owned a dsm.... I though with the 1.5 cables you had to install a turnbuckle in them to make them long enough as well.
Author:  UnderPSI [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
Quote:
I thought DSM ones were adjustable on that side as well, but its been a while since I owned a dsm.... I though with the 1.5 cables you had to install a turnbuckle in them to make them long enough as well.
90 dsm cables were both adjustable and the 91-94 's were only adjustable on the front to back cable. Here is a pic I just took of my 3rd gen csm cables, these have never been out of the car.

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Author:  amoney90 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
As far as I know they've never been changed, I never changed them myself and the guy before me doesn't know anything about cars other than how to drive.
Author:  Coltsfan [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
They did away with the adjustable cables on the 92 model year CSM's. I have a set of those in my car too, but I had two sets of adjustable ones that I sold to another member.

I ran into this issue once before swapping a couple of KM206's in a DSM. Even having swapped out the lever, the KM206 from the CSM didn't fit the DSM quite right.

I had to cut the arm like this (actually opposite of this because it was from a CSM to a DSM), bend it, then weld the gap shut. It works like a charm.
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Author:  amoney90 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
I just ended up cutting it off again and re welding it back further, works great now!
Author:  Mechacode [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shift linkage problems
It sounds like the levers on the trans were welded with it in gear instead of in neutral.
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