No, you need an Eprom chipped to compensate and you will be fine.
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| Author: | TucsonTSI [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | What else do I need to reach 425hp? |
I just bought a 93 Mirage coupe that has a 4g63-t and AWD swap. The car has an FP3052 w/Tial 44mm wastegate, 660cc injs, walbro 255, mbc, and a safc-2 (the rest of the engine is a '93 4g63-t stock longblock and intercooler with 4,500 miles on a stock rebuild). I get the impression that the safc-2 is not going to be sufficient when running more than ~14lbs with this turbo(?) I am going to add a large FMIC, wideband, egt gauge, and a ported 2g exhaust manifold. I am eventually hoping to run 27 to 30lbs on C16 with this longblock and turbo and get 400+awhp. All of my experience tuning cars has been on my AWD Talon which has a standalone (Haltech), 20g, and supporting mods. I don't know what I will need on my Mirage for ECU control. I am thinking I will need a 3" or 3.5" GM maf and a maf-t? Do I need DSM link at this point? Or is there a cheaper way to get my setup to 400-450awhp? Will I need cams to meet my hp goal? (I don't think so). I know that I have very few posts, but I do have a fair amount of experience working on my Talon, so I am not too new to these cars or tuning the 4g63-t; but I don't know much about the limits of a stock ECU w/a piggy back. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for your help and time. |
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| Author: | MattGSR [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:28 pm ] |
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welcome to the forums, check out hemi-colt on here...i think he runs the same set-up (turbo) and is close to making 500 afik edit: he was usinf FP3065 and he's into the 500hp club using safc-2 |
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| Author: | tsi20gawd [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:00 pm ] |
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Did you happen to buy this car in Oregon? Bryan |
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| Author: | TucsonTSI [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:44 am ] |
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Quote: Did you happen to buy this car in Oregon?
Indeed. I bought it in Portland. It is a coupe and I bought it from a guy named Paul (Not to be confused with the Paul (Evil93evo) from the Portland area who is selling a sedan).
Bryan |
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| Author: | TucsonTSI [ Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:28 am ] |
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...so will I need to go to a GM MAF to reach 400awhp? or will a 2g MAF get me there? |
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| Author: | turbomirage89 [ Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:17 pm ] |
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2G MAF will easily help you get 400 whp. It is very efficient, and many people that run big numbers use it. |
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| Author: | SpinMasta11 [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:14 pm ] |
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I see you want to put a large FMIC, does that mean its on a sidemount now or just a small FMIC? All you really need is some cams, a decent FMIC, and a good tune. Keep the 2g MAF, just hack it if need be. |
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| Author: | TucsonTSI [ Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:56 am ] |
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Quote: I see you want to put a large FMIC, does that mean its on a sidemount now or just a small FMIC? All you really need is some cams, a decent FMIC, and a good tune. Keep the 2g MAF, just hack it if need be.
The car had a DSM sidemount when I got it. I decided to put the motor that was in my Talon into the Mirage. It has a built head, 272's, Wiseco pistons, cryo treated 1g big rods, and only about 2,500 miles on it. Thanks for everyone's input! If I get the 2g MAF, do I need a translator? |
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| Author: | Flying Eagle [ Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:48 pm ] |
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No, you need an Eprom chipped to compensate and you will be fine. DSMChips.com - Jeff Oberholtzer.
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