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I ordered that # and got it today. It's a long axle. Just to clear that up for anyone trying to get the drivers side axle.

I'm not sure if you guys know this yet,

But with my 1989 GT, Using the stock intermediate shaft on the driver side, you can use the 1g AWD axle from Murrays as a replacement. I just did it on my project and the axles are the same length.

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im pretty sure the area where the seal rides on the DSM axles is BIGGER on the DSM axles compared to the 4g61t colt axles. But they are the same size?? thats wierd! Maybe if you take the seal out of the back of the colt hub it would fit? or you could maybe machine down the seal surface on the axle to fit into the smaller Colt wheel bearing seal.



Ill have to try this out and see what happens as i have LOTS of drivers side AWD axles laying around.

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

I'm physically bolting mine in this week so I'll know forsure, but length wise they are only off a few thousandths.

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okay.. well then the issue will be where the seal rides... the DSM axle will have interferance with the seal on the colts hub.

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

I compaired the dsm half shaft, directly next to the original 4g61t colt half shaft, they look identical.

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use a vernier caliper or a ruler or something and measure the diameter of the part where the wheel bearing seal rides on. I think you will see what i am talking about.


I could be wrong here... but i looked at both a awd 1G DSM axle.. and also a 4g61t colt axle... that was the difference that i noticed.

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

The inner part of the 2 piece axle, the side that bolts to the block, and goes into the transmission are identical from a CSM to a DSM.. The outta CV area that goes from that part into the Hub are differnt

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91 colt beater..

The intermediate shaft and the drivers side axle are two separate things. The intermediate can easily be changed from original turbo mirage piece to dsm piece with no problems, the dsm axle isn't the same though.

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Had a:
1991 Eagle Summit ES Hatchback - 4g15 12v 5spd
1991 Dodge Colt -4g15 12v 4spd
Have a:
1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass - 468BBO TH350
Round 3:
1990 Dodge Colt-4G63T 5spd

On my swapped sedan I'm running 2 generation turbo CSM passenger's side and divers half shaft. The half shaft is mated to an awd intermediate shaft. I got the axles from an 88 turbo (g32b car). these came with a km206(f5m22) and equal length axles.

Car is was originally a 91 4g15 5 speed and is now swapped with a 1ga 4g63t and matching transmission. I took it for a drive without any issues.

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05 wrx wagon
99 Benz ML 320
91 eagle summit swapped - 6/4 bolt combo
94 Audi s4 - sold
88 Eagle Vista Turbo LX sedan, RIP

well i figured out how to remove the OUTER CV joint from the mitsubishi axles.... the just have a pop-c-clip that pops out if you hit the CV with a hammer hard enough (or use a slide hammer if you like...

anyways the LONG axle that i orded uses the same outter CV as the OEM 89 turbo colt 4g61t axle does... so im thinking that i can just use the axle shaft from my original 4g61t axles (that have clicky joints) and swap on the outter cv's from the LONG axle i recieved. I should be able to also use a "new" inner CV joint from any AWD 1G DSM axle as well.


I keep you guys updated if this works on my "homemade Axle rebuild"


Im going to go to a local Axle rebuilder and see if i can source the inner and outter CV joints bythemselves.

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

Well I went to the junkyard today and found a 2G 1989 Colt turbo.... SEDAN (4DR) with the g32b turbo engine. I looked at the axles and to my surprize it apeared to use the SAME axles as my 4g61t 89 Colt GT. I removed the axles and took some pics and measured them up to make sure they would work. Looks like "2jdapo" is right!! g32b axles WILL work. (not 100% yet)

From looking at them they are the correct length and have the same shaft diameter as the 3G colt 4g61t ones as well

Anyways,

Here is what the colt looked like I pulled the axles from (just a generic pic)


Here is a pic I took of its enginebay


Here are some pics I took once I got the axles removed from the 2G colt and was able to compare them to some 1G DSM axles I had laying around.

The 2G colt g32b axles and intermedate shaft.


Here I am comparing the passenger side g32b axle (top one) with a 1G turbo DSM axle. Notice how the DSM axle is a bit longer then 2G g32b colt's axle. The 2G colt g32b colt axles are the same length as 3G colt 4g61t axles


Here you can see how the area where the dust seal rides is larger on the DSM axle then the g32b 2G colt axle... The colt axle is the same size as my 3G axles... so it will bolt right into my 3g 4g61t colt's hub and work perfect! ( i hope) The Colt axle is on the left side


Here is comparing the g32b tranny side CV to a 1G DSM axle. They are the same.... so the g32b axles should bolt into my 89 Colt GT km210 tranny perfect. the colt axle is on the right side and dsm axle on the left


And here you can see how the g32b intermediate shaft is different from a 4g61t/1G DSM awd intermediate shaft. Lucky the g32b driver side short axle slides/attaches pefect to a 4g61t/1Gdsmawd intermediate shaft.



Ill let you guys know how it goes with these axles.

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

Nice! Of course I'm right Also about the g32b intermediate shaft, I'm sure it would work if you replace the appropriate carrier for your swap.

I like how beefy the shafts are on the g32b axels. Did you happen to get lucky and find oem green cup axels?

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05 wrx wagon
99 Benz ML 320
91 eagle summit swapped - 6/4 bolt combo
94 Audi s4 - sold
88 Eagle Vista Turbo LX sedan, RIP

Well I put the axles in today! They work perfect, no more clicking around turns!!
I had no problems at all except i found out that the 4g61t intermediate shaft and a 1G DSM awd intermediate shaft are a bit different on the offset of the part that bolts to the block and the spacing is wider on the 4g61t one compared to the awd 4g63 one.
From looking at the 4g61t intermediate shaft it looks the EXACT same as a g32b shaft exept for the 4g61t shaft is thicker. Both use the same splines and such...

Anyways hope this helps ppl out for there search in axles!


Oh and j2dapo:

No they both were not green cup's unfortunatry!! I think both are reman's... :S

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-1989 Colt GT (stock for now)
-1993 Dodge colt 4g63 swap
-1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR (genuine)
-1992 Eagle Summit AWD 4g63t swap (SOLD)

I'm currently running 1g FWD axles in my car with no issues. I tried to use the 1g awd intermediate shaft so I could utilize the equal length halfshafts but that didn't work out for some reason. I'm going to get the car on a hoist and try again very soon.


But I have over 1k miles on these 1g axles from autozone.

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