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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:31 pm 
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anyone ever tried one of these?

http://store.summitracing.com/default.a ... htype=ecat

edit: if you limit front end lift, are you limiting rear weight transfer? i'd much rather strap some of these cables onto the front suspension, than use hard spring rates at the back.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:36 pm 
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interesting concept.
i wonder if when going over humps in the road, the front end would be inclined to lose contact?

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It is a very interesting concept for sure. However, it does not state that it works with FWD vehicles, and considering Competition Engineering mainly caters to V8 RWD guys I doubt it does. Plus with FWD cars it's not so much that the front end is lifting up as the back end is squating due to the weight transfer at launch. The best bet with FWD cars has always been to stiffen up the rear end shock and spring wise to help lessen that effect.

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its a shame that it has to be welded on, cause otherwise i'm sure we could convince someone around here to try it...

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I'd be willing to try it if I think it would help on my next project car. I'm getting a 4G15 C52 and doing the swap. Stay tuned for Project: Straight Line Stealth Mode. ;)

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ok, a thought..( and i have a patent pending so) why not just take the rear suspension out and make a straight bar.. ( like a mini I-Beam), that you bolt in, place it in where the rear shock or strut would go, this would get rid of the rear suspension movement, and the weight transfer would drop to almost nothing. Also in the works a real " front wheel drive traction bar".

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:56 pm 
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ok, a thought..( and i have a patent pending so) why not just take the rear suspension out and make a straight bar.. ( like a mini I-Beam), that you bolt in, place it in where the rear shock or strut would go, this would get rid of the rear suspension movement, and the weight transfer would drop to almost nothing. Also in the works a real " front wheel drive traction bar".
Hate to break this to you, but your patent app won't get far, folks have been binding up the rear suspension for decades...

On streetable cars at the strip it doesn't work very well for anything other than FWD setups, otherwise you just end up with crazy wheelspin out the tail end.


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Hate to break this to you, but your patent app won't get far, folks have been binding up the rear suspension for decades...

On streetable cars at the strip it doesn't work very well for anything other than FWD setups, otherwise you just end up with crazy wheelspin out the tail end.
Yup I agree. ABD Racing did this 8 or so years ago on their drag pick up truck. This truck was sick 12 second quarters NA out of a 2.1L http://www.abdracing.com/project/pickup/index.html


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some other options to limit weight transfer:

clamps: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ ... rmenbr=361

spacers: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ ... rmenbr=361

boosters: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ ... rmenbr=361

i hear another option is to weld the rear shocks solid.


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it was a joke... geeeeez.

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I have these straps on my typhoon and it made a big differance on luching off the line.It runs evenly down the track now then it did before.What I do is put them on once i get to the track and then take them off once i'm leaving.Takes me about 3 mins to put them on and 3 mins to take them off.It was a good investment for me.

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Use D shackles to put them on/off the car.

Solid rear suspension will only do about half what wheelie bars will, even for a FWD, the wheelie bars when compined with soft rear suspension will have the effect of lengthening the wheel base, and so actually transfering weight to the front, rather than just reducing transfer to the rear.


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tiny bit off topic, but has anyone tried using the air bags that inflate inside the rear coils?
i'm no drag racer, mind you, but it seems like it might be better to combat weight transfer [at least when it involves limiting suspension travel] in the rear than in the front. -just the way it seems to me.


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It works. I buddy cut slots in the front suspenion towers and used tie down straps for the same effect on a drag integra a few years back. The above solution looks alot better/easier.

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anyone ever seen air bags that work in a mcpherson strut?


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