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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:29 am 
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what about the setup of koni's w/ h&r springs are these better than the koni's / whiteline setup?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:39 am 
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A few weeks ago, I was looking through the Whiteline catalogue, and couldn't find the springs for our cars anymore(couldn't find any springs at all in said catalogue actually), so i fired an email off to them.

This is the response i got from them:
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Hi Chris,

Unfortunately the company decided to move away form the manufacture of springs completely so this is why they're not in the catalogue anymore.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Kind Regards,

Wayne Vickery,
on behalf of John Lynch

Technical / Customer Service Team Leader
REDRANGER PTY LIMITED
The home of Nolathane & Whiteline
Ph. +61 2 4340 9501
Fax. +61 2 4340 2466
Tech. 1300 882 355 Aus.
Tech. 0800 88 0189 NZ.
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So, just for reference, Whiteline no longer manufactures springs of ANY TYPE.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:14 pm 
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well that seems rather lame.
Now this is a really noob question but why is everyone just not running fwd dsm stuff? are there fitment issues with the rear springs or something? Because i know that my last car already had kyb agx setup on it when i got it. I was never sure of the springs though but that car NEVER squatted or acted anything but stable if anything it was "too stable" hard as a damn rock


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:24 pm 
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well that seems rather lame.
Now this is a really noob question but why is everyone just not running fwd dsm stuff? are there fitment issues with the rear springs or something? Because i know that my last car already had kyb agx setup on it when i got it. I was never sure of the springs though but that car NEVER squatted or acted anything but stable if anything it was "too stable" hard as a damn rock
People use AWD DSM stuff. It's not a direct bolt-in. There are lots of threads about this in the suspension archive.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:17 am 
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too bad there not like honda legos. :) I Think the H&R Combo might be expensive


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:48 pm 
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Sorry to bump an old thread...buuutttt...

I am wondering if the non turbo b&g springs fit the turbo model.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:22 pm 
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Yessir.
The B&G springs for an 89.5-92 Mirage will fit all the Colts.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:49 pm 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-G-Suspension- ... cc&vxp=mtr

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:47 pm 
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Does that also mean those springs will fit the eagle summit wagons?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:28 pm 
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Does that also mean those springs will fit the eagle summit wagons?

Nope, completely different suspension setups.

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Curious if anyone has tried the Megan springs specific for the 3G Csm?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:28 am 
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Do the B&G s2 springs work with the stock struts?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:05 am 
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Direct fit.

I've been running them since they came in a box with a used KM210 from Virginia.

All 89-92 CSMs use the same shock absorbers, for the USDM/CDN models, non turbo or turbo.

IF you have any variation of 4WD installed, factory 4wd rear or modified AWD rear crossmember, the rear shocks would change, and the springs to suit.

I like can bear the ride, but keep bump stops installed at all four corners. You have even less travel at the rear when lowered.
Handling is very responsive and will allow very precise and quick lane changes as you overtake on the highway. I do not have any changes from stock alignment spec, no extra neg camber, no added positive caster, all rubber OEM bushings from 1989 minus the Superpro sway bar bushings for the turbo/Elantra sway bar. The sway bar is the other main reason the car handles so well, and the icing on the cake would be the turbo steering rack with the quicker steering ratio and large grip three spoke steering wheel. These all coupled together make the driving experience SO much more predictable. If there was anything I would change over time it would likely be the rear suspension. I would like to see an independent rear chassis setup from a 93+ bodystyle. I don't like the way the tail wags when you hit larger bumps/surface variation while pulling sideways G's in the twisty foothills, to name at least one charactertic on the drawback side of this platform.

Upgrading to an adjustable panhard rod to correct for the axle being moved over at your new ride height, would help the feel and tracking of the rear end, and subsequently keep the front tracking better when the going gets twisty and or bumpy. Poly bushes may help keep the geometry where it's right in spec all through the full range of travel and under heavy stresses, but we are working on a master list of what is needed for each platform; behind the scenes.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:19 pm 
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but we are working on a master list of what is needed for each platform
Awesome :D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:10 pm 
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Curious if anyone has tried the Megan springs specific for the 3G Csm?
Megan springs for the 3G?

Hmm...http://www.meganracing.com/product_deta ... 8&catid=44

It says 92-01, so they probably mean the 4G+ :(.

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