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I have a chipped tooth on fifth, and need to know what other options work for a fifth gear/matching gear set, will work. If there is a fifth other than the FWD f5m33 from a DSM, that would be my reason for asking.

I heard something about people putting EVO 3 5th gear into F5M33...
Not sure about details..
Found this in 2sec search on google..
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie- ... gains.html
Aldo I dont have time to read it now. Try to research

I heard is taller gear so that should be good for highways cruise.
Only down side could be cost of it.

Evo3

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/colle ... i-5th-gear

Or a double synchro option

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/colle ... o-gear-set

The AWD 5th gear is supposed to be higher, giving you a lower RPM at cruise.

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1991 GVR4 1025/2000 (PTE 1200's, 16g, DSMLink v3, gm-maf, eagle/ross, .020 over, 272's, EVO VIII Wheels)
1992 GVR4 866/1000 (getting everything from above)

So 5th gear set from what year AWD will drop in where the FWD 91 unit sits now?
No mods?

Supposed to be interchangable, just a taller gear. Put a FWD 5th in an AWD and you would never need to downshift to build boost!!

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Thom
1991 GVR4 1025/2000 (PTE 1200's, 16g, DSMLink v3, gm-maf, eagle/ross, .020 over, 272's, EVO VIII Wheels)
1992 GVR4 866/1000 (getting everything from above)

Jacks shows FWD 92-99 and all AWD as compatible for the taller 5th.
I have a 91 gear set. I may have a local option to compare with, I'll find out shortly.
If I know that 91 FWD DSM transmissions will accept this taller fifth, I may have two options for sourcing gears.

All 1g 5th gears will interchange. I ran a 5th from a 93 in my 90. Worked out great and dropped around 3-500 rpm cruise speed.

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If speed kills, then i shoulda been dead awhile ago. There is no such thing as "Too Much Power". There is no excuse for a lost race. Do you view the rev limiter as a fun limiter?or as a shift point? And we all know, more boost=more fun.

Thats good to know! I guess I'll be looking for a 93!
Thanks for the good info!

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or find one from any 1st gen...
90, 91, 92, 93, 94

as long as it says w5m33, you are good...

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If speed kills, then i shoulda been dead awhile ago. There is no such thing as "Too Much Power". There is no excuse for a lost race. Do you view the rev limiter as a fun limiter?or as a shift point? And we all know, more boost=more fun.

Good info, thank you.

Flying Eagle keep us posted on your finding also. I been really want to change 5th in my fwd talon for years just to help the mpg over the road.

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92 Summit TSI AWD 4G63t Auto
92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Auto DRag CaR
5 X 90 Talon TSI
90 GSX
99 GSX..........31 Dodge 4dr Rat Rod, 67 Catalina, 92 3kgt vr4, 83 Civic,4 00 F-350, 01 Chevy 2500HD
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Old post, but I will be doing this before the SO this year. I hate buzzing around at near 4k to keep up with everyone. The reason Jack's lists 92-94 transmissions is because they are stronger. You should be able to grab the gears and parts at the end of any 1g AWD transmission and slide/nut them onto a 90-94 FWD transmission. I will really enjoy the 3-500 rpm drop. We have an AWD tranny with a blown center-diff that will be donating it's 5'th gear set to the bird.

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Thom
1991 GVR4 1025/2000 (PTE 1200's, 16g, DSMLink v3, gm-maf, eagle/ross, .020 over, 272's, EVO VIII Wheels)
1992 GVR4 866/1000 (getting everything from above)

I need to jump on this taller 5th bandwagon.

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89 Mirage Billet 20g 63t 12.4@120 417whp 400wtq @ English Racing.
89 Colt GT E316g
06 Silverado SS
07 ZX6R

I had a taller 5th gear on my Mirage. I honestly didn't like it. It was a F5M33 trans with a AWD 5th gear, which is a direct bolt-in affair. It lowered the RPM's so much that the car fell of its powerband in highway cruising, and I had to give it a lot of gas to pass people and things like that. The fact that the engine was lugging out of its powerband, and the fact that I had to give it more throttle to get around things, meant that my gas mileage didn't really improve any, if at all. I honestly hardly noticed a difference from the stock KM210. The F5M33 trans I installed already had the AWD gear put in when I installed it, so I can't tell you what the normal F5M33 5th gear was like. I will admit, it is nice cruising at lower RPM's in general. It's less noisy and vibrationy, but that's about it.

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